I live in County Clare, Ireland. All my family originate from the West Of Ireland, My GGGrandad John Doherty was a pensioner in 1866. The only way he could have a pension is from the military. Does anybody know how to find this out? I know that most Irish fought for the Irish Brigade.

Regards Ray (Doherty)

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Tags: American Civil War, Genealogy, Military History, United States

Comment by Joe Gannon on January 26, 2016 at 8:03pm

Ray, I realized you did give me one thing to go on, that he was 43 when his daughter was born in 1866. So looking at the 59 John Doherty's that served in the Union army, there are only two that are about the right age. One enlisted in a NY regiment, but he deserted two day later, so clearly no pension, but the other one is a possibility. Here's his info:

John O. Doherty: Residence Hollis NH; 39 years old.

Enlisted on 8/7/1861 as a Private.

On 8/23/1861 he mustered into "F" Co. NH 3rd Infantry

He was discharged for disability on 9/15/1862 at Hilton Head, SC

Other Information: born in Ireland

So he's 39 in in August 1861 when he enlisted. In August 1866 he'd be 44, but he might be 43 part of that year, depending on his exact birthday. He was discharged for a disability, so he could have gotten a pension, and he was born in Ireland. 

So then the question would be: do you know what his middle name was? This guy's started with an "O."

Comment by Raymond Patrick Doherty on January 27, 2016 at 5:29am

As far back as 1866 on the birth cert of his daughter Honora there was no "O" in the name, that is all I know.

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Comment by That's Just How It Was on January 29, 2016 at 11:29am

If I can interject in this conversation,,,,, from doing my own research on my Grandmother what I found out  from a genealogist .was the in the 1800, baby's were not not always registered on their birth day, it could be weeks /months before anyone woudl get around to registration a birth if ever. Catholics marriages were not registered in Ireland until approx 1850ish,,, unless you knew what Church your ancestors  were married in , there is no registrar to list marriages before 1850 ish.. .

Names have been shortened , or lengthened or a an 'O' inserted or retracted ..  for example , my Grandmothers name was O'Rourke , over the generations it went from being to rurke to rourk to Rourke  to O'Rourke .

The 'O' meaning 'off 'the Rourke family, or 'of'' the Brien family for example ..

Then  of course there was the destruction of all the documents in the General Post Office Dublin 1916 ............. 

Hope this of some help 

Comment by Raymond Patrick Doherty on January 29, 2016 at 2:18pm

Thank you for the Information sir. I have My Great Great Aunts birth cert. It is more or less the same week/month that they registered to birth.

Comment by Raymond Patrick Doherty on January 29, 2016 at 2:19pm

Joe, could you provide me with any more info on John Doherty?

Comment by Joe Gannon on January 29, 2016 at 2:59pm

Ray, I wish I could, but that's all I have on this soldier who may or may not be your ancestor. You can request the pension records from our national archives though. Those might contain some information about where the pension was sent or communications between this soldier and the pension people. Here's a link to a PDF copy of their form:


Comment by Raymond Patrick Doherty on January 30, 2016 at 6:18am

Thanks Joe.


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