Comments - The Night the Nazis Bombed Dublin - The Wild Geese2024-03-28T09:06:06Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6442157%3ABlogPost%3A192523&xn_auth=noThere is an exhibit of a Swed…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-09-27:6442157:Comment:2004762016-09-27T00:43:01.988Zmichael dunnehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/michaeldunne
<p>There is an exhibit of a Swedish Bophurs anti aircraft gun (commonly known as AK AK) in the National Museum of Ireland Collins Barracks. It is part of the wonderful 'Soldiers and Chiefs' exhibition. What makes this gun unique is that it is said to have been the only one that fired at an enemy aircraft in defense of the nation. The gun was in Collinstown at the time of the bombing of the North Strand in which 29 people were killed. Collinstown is only a couple of minutes flying time from…</p>
<p>There is an exhibit of a Swedish Bophurs anti aircraft gun (commonly known as AK AK) in the National Museum of Ireland Collins Barracks. It is part of the wonderful 'Soldiers and Chiefs' exhibition. What makes this gun unique is that it is said to have been the only one that fired at an enemy aircraft in defense of the nation. The gun was in Collinstown at the time of the bombing of the North Strand in which 29 people were killed. Collinstown is only a couple of minutes flying time from North Strand. So the reports that this crew were circling for some time around the skies of Dublin at night suggests they were looking for a precise target so much so that the crew of the Bophurs Ak ak gun was able to get in position and did fire off a few rounds of anti aircraft.</p> Delete Comment
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<dd><div class="xg_user_generated"><div><div><div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>Interesting article that may help explain the following three accidental German bombings in Dublin and one in Wexford in 1941. The Dublin bombings were North Strand, killing 29 people, Donore Avenue, no fatalities but the Jewish Synagogue was only narrowly missed. This was Dublin's principal Jewish settlement at the time. <span><span>The train station in the North Strand (now Connolly) was the main transport system bringing Irish workers to Belfast and on to the UK, and therefore may have been a strategic target. Many Irish also enlisted in the British Army.</span></span>The third was in or near the Phoenix Park perhaps intended to take out the "unidentified voice" mentioned in this article. These bombings were said to be accidental and meant for Belfast.</span></span></div>
<div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>The bombing of a butter factory in a small village of Campile, Co Wexford could hardly have been mistaken for a city. This butter factory owned by a British businessman was exporting his produce directly to the Allies. There were two fatalities here.</span></span></div>
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<div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>While we were neutral, it is hard to believe that a young army officer would be stupid enough to ask if these prisoners of war who crash landed in Brandon in 1940, were to be shot because the Curragh was not developed at that time for the detention of prisoners of war. (Another incident)<br/></span></span></div>
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<address class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>Many Irish men and women, despite de Valeras pleadings, headed to Birmingham and Coventry to work in the munitions factories for treble the rate of pay to be had at home. (Farm labourers were abandoning the farm work as there was more money to be had snaring rabbits, as in Lanes poultry shop of Sullivans Lane and Rock Street Tralee, may attest.) In 1941 an American B17 crash landed in the mountains of Sligo. The survivors were taken across the border to be reunited with their allies there.(National Museum of Ireland)</span></span></address>
<address class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>It is reasonable therefore to assume that intelligence on the ground was in cahoots with the Germans supplying co ordinates etc. Germany may have been giving our Irish neutrality government a subtle reminder of the obligations or strict observance of our "Neutrality" Were these bombings a quid pro quo given the hairy military aircraft incidents of 1941? Those Germans interred in the Curragh had a reasonable amount of freedom there and were billeted beside the Anti Treatites also interned at the time. Much of what is referred to above can be seen in the National Museum Collins Barracks Dublin 7 in its wonderful "Soldiers and Chiefs" exhibition. Its Free and open every day except Monday. <br/></span></span></address>
<div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>Wing debris from Luftwaffe Focke Wulf 200 Condor air crash site. Mount Brandon, Dingle Peninsula, in County Kerry Ireland.Believe it or not...</span></span></div>
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<div><div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>"Here's a photo of what is today accepted as being the FW 200C Condor F8+KH Werke Nr. 00015, that crashed on Faha ridge, Mt.Brandon. This was deduced by a couple of data plates recovered in recent years and the fact that no trace of F8+KH can be found in records after August 20th 1940."</span></span></div>
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<div><div class="_1mf _1mj"><span><span>'Luftwaffe Focke Wulf 200 ''Condor'' of KG40 departed Bordeaux in Western France on the morning of the 20th of August, 1940, to carry out weather reconnaissance...</span></span></div>
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</dl> This is a compelling story of…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-06:6442157:Comment:1930722016-06-06T21:02:55.843ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>This is a compelling story of the Irish during World War 2: <a href="http://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/blogs/an-unusual-story-from-ringsend-dublin-ireland" target="_blank">http://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/blogs/an-unusual-story-from-ringsend-dublin-ireland</a></p>
<p>This is a compelling story of the Irish during World War 2: <a href="http://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/blogs/an-unusual-story-from-ringsend-dublin-ireland" target="_blank">http://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/blogs/an-unusual-story-from-ringsend-dublin-ireland</a></p> Yes, I've been there a few ti…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-06:6442157:Comment:1929832016-06-06T10:23:20.450ZDavid Lawlorhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DavidLawlor
<p>Yes, I've been there a few times. I used to stay in a cabin nearby when I was a scout and we would frequently visit the graveyard. It's very peaceful. The body of the spy Hermann Goertz lies there, as do the bodies of the victims of a refugee ship that sunk off the coast, but the name escapes me. </p>
<p>Yes, I've been there a few times. I used to stay in a cabin nearby when I was a scout and we would frequently visit the graveyard. It's very peaceful. The body of the spy Hermann Goertz lies there, as do the bodies of the victims of a refugee ship that sunk off the coast, but the name escapes me. </p> Glencree is uniquely, decepti…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-06:6442157:Comment:1929822016-06-06T03:58:23.919ZLiam Murphyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/LiamMurphy
<p>Glencree is uniquely, deceptively beautiful for a war cemetery. The central man-made object is a three-sided obelisk, bearing the same message in Irish, in German and in English. Most of those buried there were German aviators and sailors who, in distress/desperation, headed for Ireland, seeking refuge. </p>
<p>Glencree is uniquely, deceptively beautiful for a war cemetery. The central man-made object is a three-sided obelisk, bearing the same message in Irish, in German and in English. Most of those buried there were German aviators and sailors who, in distress/desperation, headed for Ireland, seeking refuge. </p> I wouldn't put it past Church…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-06:6442157:Comment:1930582016-06-06T00:58:41.456ZDavid Lawlorhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DavidLawlor
<p>I wouldn't put it past Churchill to do such a thing, Liam</p>
<p>I wouldn't put it past Churchill to do such a thing, Liam</p> In 1971, while in grad school…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-05:6442157:Comment:1928762016-06-05T19:00:47.912ZLiam Murphyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/LiamMurphy
<p>In 1971, while in grad school in Dublin, I was told that this bombing of Dublin was intended to send a message to deValera to not send the Dublin Fire Brigade down to the North when the Germans were bombing "British" targets. It seems that the Nazis had no more regard for the 1937 Éire Constitution (which claimed "the entire Island of Ireland, its islands and territorial seas") than did the Brits. I also learned that there was a second bombing of Dublin -- after which the German Ambassador…</p>
<p>In 1971, while in grad school in Dublin, I was told that this bombing of Dublin was intended to send a message to deValera to not send the Dublin Fire Brigade down to the North when the Germans were bombing "British" targets. It seems that the Nazis had no more regard for the 1937 Éire Constitution (which claimed "the entire Island of Ireland, its islands and territorial seas") than did the Brits. I also learned that there was a second bombing of Dublin -- after which the German Ambassador told the Dublin government, "This time it wasn't us." Gee, you don't suppose Mr. Churchill's RAF was guilty of a similar "navigational error", or were they just masquerading as Luftwaffe (?).</p> There are plenty of Luftwaffe…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-03:6442157:Comment:1929322016-06-03T19:38:17.228ZDavid Lawlorhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DavidLawlor
<p>There are plenty of Luftwaffe crew buried in the German graveyard in Glencree, a fact which would support your point, Joe</p>
<p>There are plenty of Luftwaffe crew buried in the German graveyard in Glencree, a fact which would support your point, Joe</p> There were several other inci…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-03:6442157:Comment:1929312016-06-03T18:39:59.403ZJoe Gannonhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/JoeGannon
<p>There were several other incidents of smaller German bombings of Irish territory. This list of them does include one that happened at 6 am in south Dublin on January 2, 1941. It would have been light then I imagine and the plane doing it could have flown over north Dublin even if the bombs were dropped in south Dublin. And perhaps it could have had a British fighter on it's tail. So she could have been at her kitchen sink then if she was an early riser. Also, given all these incidents when…</p>
<p>There were several other incidents of smaller German bombings of Irish territory. This list of them does include one that happened at 6 am in south Dublin on January 2, 1941. It would have been light then I imagine and the plane doing it could have flown over north Dublin even if the bombs were dropped in south Dublin. And perhaps it could have had a British fighter on it's tail. So she could have been at her kitchen sink then if she was an early riser. Also, given all these incidents when bombs dropped, there were probably many other times when German planes flew over Ireland without any bombs being dropped. In fact this website says "... t<span>hroughout the 1940 - 1941 period, it appears that Irish Army Authorities frequently plotted aircraft flying deep within Irish airspace." So what she saw wouldn't necessarily have to coincide with any bombs falling on Dublin. There may have been many incidents of it that were never even mentioned in any papers.</span></p>
<p><a href="http://www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/bombings.html" target="_blank">http://www.skynet.ie/~dan/war/bombings.html</a> </p> That seems more likely since…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-06-03:6442157:Comment:1931282016-06-03T16:51:32.726ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>That seems more likely since I presume she was washing her dishes at a decent hour (not the wee hours that marked the May 31 incursion into Dublin's airspace.</p>
<p>That seems more likely since I presume she was washing her dishes at a decent hour (not the wee hours that marked the May 31 incursion into Dublin's airspace.</p>