Comments - Those Wonderful, Intelligent Irish Genes - Thank You, Ireland - The Wild Geese2024-03-28T13:30:33Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6442157%3ABlogPost%3A107525&xn_auth=noI have learned not to ever ta…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-05:6442157:Comment:1110032014-08-05T17:58:46.880ZDee Notarohttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DeeNotaro
<p>I have learned not to ever take anything that a person says about their heritage and family history as not so. I can only point out what I know. If people believe they are descended from George Washington - sometimes nothing will sway them....not even DNA. I welcome all comments - everything is learning. I also think there are some arguments- not only Irish-Scots but in other parts of the world - that will NEVER be settled in our lifetime. The arguments will just go on and on.</p>
<p>I have learned not to ever take anything that a person says about their heritage and family history as not so. I can only point out what I know. If people believe they are descended from George Washington - sometimes nothing will sway them....not even DNA. I welcome all comments - everything is learning. I also think there are some arguments- not only Irish-Scots but in other parts of the world - that will NEVER be settled in our lifetime. The arguments will just go on and on.</p> I'm sure. I'm not trying to b…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-05:6442157:Comment:1109082014-08-05T17:34:05.204ZJohn W. Hurleyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/JohnWHurley
<p>I'm sure. I'm not trying to be mean it's just....they themselves, the Scots-Irish or Ulster-Scots, are the ones asserting that they are not Irish, not me. And there is debate among their community about it. What's interesting is that in Gaelic culture you have both streams of thought, one that you must be genetically Gaelic in order to "qualify" for being Irish and the second that if you speak Irish and fight for Gaelic culture (like so any of the Norman lords later did) that you are…</p>
<p>I'm sure. I'm not trying to be mean it's just....they themselves, the Scots-Irish or Ulster-Scots, are the ones asserting that they are not Irish, not me. And there is debate among their community about it. What's interesting is that in Gaelic culture you have both streams of thought, one that you must be genetically Gaelic in order to "qualify" for being Irish and the second that if you speak Irish and fight for Gaelic culture (like so any of the Norman lords later did) that you are Irish.</p>
<p>Dee I didn't know you taught about Irish genealogy, that's great. Apologies if I came off like I was lecturing, I'm sure you know all of this already, I was just trying to help. </p> That will help a lot for thos…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-05:6442157:Comment:1106532014-08-05T09:11:24.663ZDee Notarohttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DeeNotaro
<p>That will help a lot for those in my classes to reconsider where t<span style="font-size: 13px;">o search. I sometimes take them aback when I tell them they are not really Irish per say. They also don't take </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">kindly to being Scottish when they have thought they are Irish all their lives. LOL - Thank you for your…</span></p>
<p>That will help a lot for those in my classes to reconsider where t<span style="font-size: 13px;">o search. I sometimes take them aback when I tell them they are not really Irish per say. They also don't take </span></p>
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<p><span style="font-size: 13px;">kindly to being Scottish when they have thought they are Irish all their lives. LOL - Thank you for your input.</span></p> Dee with a name like John Ale…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-05:6442157:Comment:1108482014-08-05T01:37:05.245ZJohn W. Hurleyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/JohnWHurley
<p>Dee with a name like John Alexander and his father being a doctor and them settling in the South, and being from Ulster, I would think that he was Ulster-Scots. Therefore the family would not be included in any of the Seanchasof the old<span style="font-size: 13px;"> Irish Septs as they (the Ulster-Scots) are really not Irish in the true sense of the word. They do have Gaelic rooted names but these have been altered as the ancestors they came from usually left the Highlands of Scotland, and…</span></p>
<p>Dee with a name like John Alexander and his father being a doctor and them settling in the South, and being from Ulster, I would think that he was Ulster-Scots. Therefore the family would not be included in any of the Seanchasof the old<span style="font-size: 13px;"> Irish Septs as they (the Ulster-Scots) are really not Irish in the true sense of the word. They do have Gaelic rooted names but these have been altered as the ancestors they came from usually left the Highlands of Scotland, and married into the English families of the Lowlands (who were called the "Scots" by the other English who did not live along the border). It's all very confusing but this is why to this day most of the Ulster-Scots do not consider themselves Irish or "Celtic" but English and British.</span></p> sent to you privately as inco…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-02:6442157:Comment:1098012014-08-02T08:48:54.742ZDee Notarohttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/DeeNotaro
<p>sent to you privately as inconclusive</p>
<p>sent to you privately as inconclusive</p> Interesting quest, Dee. Are t…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-08-01:6442157:Comment:1093322014-08-01T14:52:03.602ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>Interesting quest, Dee. Are there any descendants around?</p>
<p>Interesting quest, Dee. Are there any descendants around?</p>