Shock Arrest for U.S. Visitor in Belfast - The Wild Geese2024-03-28T19:40:52Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topics/shock-arrest-for-us-visitor-in-belfast?x=1&id=6442157%3ATopic%3A30830&feed=yes&xn_auth=noI'll post the source material…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-17:6442157:Comment:312392013-07-17T13:43:44.979ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>I'll post the source material for my views, Ronan. I obviously am only reading others' accounts. Having a gun on your person is not cause for an officer to open fire on you, unless you are pointing it at them. They are obliged to instruct you to drop the weapon. O'Neill and White were getting ready to leave the house when they came under fire.</p>
<p>I'll post the source material for my views, Ronan. I obviously am only reading others' accounts. Having a gun on your person is not cause for an officer to open fire on you, unless you are pointing it at them. They are obliged to instruct you to drop the weapon. O'Neill and White were getting ready to leave the house when they came under fire.</p> The series Ceart agus Cóir on…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-17:6442157:Comment:312362013-07-17T10:59:07.606ZRónán Gearóid Ó Domhnaillhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RonanGearoidODomhnaill
<p>The series Ceart agus Cóir on TG4 covered the incident. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rptKc-0Q-wg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rptKc-0Q-wg</a></p>
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<p>The series Ceart agus Cóir on TG4 covered the incident. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rptKc-0Q-wg" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rptKc-0Q-wg</a></p>
<p></p> He was carrying a gun. The co…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-17:6442157:Comment:312302013-07-17T09:10:35.909ZRónán Gearóid Ó Domhnaillhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RonanGearoidODomhnaill
<p>He was carrying a gun. The cops in America would not adopt a softly softly approach in a similar situation. I don't doubt he was given a hero's funeral in Kerry, possibly the republican part of Ireland. I believe Brendan Behan was lifted around the same time. Although he expressed a desire to shoot at the free State police he was not fired upon. </p>
<p>He was carrying a gun. The cops in America would not adopt a softly softly approach in a similar situation. I don't doubt he was given a hero's funeral in Kerry, possibly the republican part of Ireland. I believe Brendan Behan was lifted around the same time. Although he expressed a desire to shoot at the free State police he was not fired upon. </p> He was given a hero's funeral…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-17:6442157:Comment:311422013-07-17T02:38:46.909ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>He was given a hero's funeral in Kerry, that much is clear, Ronan. I also think it clear that he would have been shot dead or wounded if he hadn't returned fire. From the sources I've seen, which were admittedly sympathetic, he was given no opportunity to surrender until he returned fire.</p>
<p>He was given a hero's funeral in Kerry, that much is clear, Ronan. I also think it clear that he would have been shot dead or wounded if he hadn't returned fire. From the sources I've seen, which were admittedly sympathetic, he was given no opportunity to surrender until he returned fire.</p> Very hard to find a neutral p…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:310412013-07-16T18:38:48.293ZRónán Gearóid Ó Domhnaillhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RonanGearoidODomhnaill
<p>Very hard to find a neutral piece about Maurice O'Neill and his case is not that well known. He was tried by the military, which would have been unusual at the time. At the time shooting a police officer carried the death sentence. Ireland between 1939-45 was in a very dangerous position. The Free State had the option of going hard on the IRA or letting them do their own thing. The latter would have given the Brits an excuse to occupy us again. </p>
<p>Very hard to find a neutral piece about Maurice O'Neill and his case is not that well known. He was tried by the military, which would have been unusual at the time. At the time shooting a police officer carried the death sentence. Ireland between 1939-45 was in a very dangerous position. The Free State had the option of going hard on the IRA or letting them do their own thing. The latter would have given the Brits an excuse to occupy us again. </p> At least his local ran a news…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:312052013-07-16T18:18:05.796ZBit Devinehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BitDevine
<p>At least his local ran a news piece...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Wisconsin-student-detained-by-police-in-Northern-Ireland-215172831.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Wisconsin-student-detained-by-...</a></p>
<p>I find it odd that there was no American media coverage of this, as there would have been had he been held by any other foreign nation</p>
<p>For those who might not know, Donal O'Meadhra is the Chairman of HARK:Human Rights</p>
<p>At least his local ran a news piece...</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Wisconsin-student-detained-by-police-in-Northern-Ireland-215172831.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cbs58.com/news/local-news/Wisconsin-student-detained-by-...</a></p>
<p>I find it odd that there was no American media coverage of this, as there would have been had he been held by any other foreign nation</p>
<p>For those who might not know, Donal O'Meadhra is the Chairman of HARK:Human Rights</p> Looks like they released him…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:312042013-07-16T18:10:38.217ZBit Devinehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BitDevine
<p>Looks like they released him late last night:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013/07/15/revealed-us-dissident-suspect-released-by-psni/">http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013/07/15/revealed-us-dissident-suspect-released-by-psni/</a></p>
<p>Looks like they released him late last night:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013/07/15/revealed-us-dissident-suspect-released-by-psni/">http://www.belfastdaily.co.uk/2013/07/15/revealed-us-dissident-suspect-released-by-psni/</a></p> from what I hear Dev would ne…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:311242013-07-16T17:46:24.766ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
from what I hear Dev would never dare show his face anywhere near Caherciveen the rest of his life. he became reviled in much of Kerry for not commuting o'neill's death sentence
from what I hear Dev would never dare show his face anywhere near Caherciveen the rest of his life. he became reviled in much of Kerry for not commuting o'neill's death sentence O'Neill and his comrade were…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:310402013-07-16T17:43:53.537ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
O'Neill and his comrade were attacked, guns blazing, no opportunity to surrender. they fired back to save their lives. this is supported by the record I believe.
O'Neill and his comrade were attacked, guns blazing, no opportunity to surrender. they fired back to save their lives. this is supported by the record I believe. TG4 did a documenatary on O'N…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-07-16:6442157:Comment:309652013-07-16T15:15:30.311ZRónán Gearóid Ó Domhnaillhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RonanGearoidODomhnaill
<p>TG4 did a documenatary on O'Neill at one stage. If I am not mistaken the Green Book stipulates that volunteers are forbidden from shooting Garda and Irish army personnel.</p>
<p>TG4 did a documenatary on O'Neill at one stage. If I am not mistaken the Green Book stipulates that volunteers are forbidden from shooting Garda and Irish army personnel.</p>