The Irish Experience in the Mainstream Media - The Wild Geese2024-03-29T15:46:35Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topics/media-references-to-irish-culture-heritage?commentId=6442157%3AComment%3A139601&feed=yes&xn_auth=no"The Brothers McMullen" is an…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-01-23:6442157:Comment:1396012015-01-23T21:27:55.189ZPatdee Mullarkeyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/PatriciaDMullarkey
<p>"The Brothers McMullen" is an interesting movie on three Irish Catholic brothers and their philosophies on life.</p>
<p>"The Brothers McMullen" is an interesting movie on three Irish Catholic brothers and their philosophies on life.</p> Great topic. I just wrote a b…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-01-23:6442157:Comment:1394702015-01-23T17:34:33.748ZLonniehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/Lonnie
<p>Great topic. I just wrote a blog post about it, mentioning your post here. In my opinion the Irish experience in the mainstream media depends on a director's/writer's/actor's relationship with Ireland. John Ford was very "twee." John Michael McDonagh is satirical. Connor McPherson is spiritual, Jim Sheridan is political, Roddy Doyle is gritty and witty. I have not seen Chasing Shackleton and Inside Llewyn Davis, so those are now on my radar. Having seen two Irish plays on Broadway last…</p>
<p>Great topic. I just wrote a blog post about it, mentioning your post here. In my opinion the Irish experience in the mainstream media depends on a director's/writer's/actor's relationship with Ireland. John Ford was very "twee." John Michael McDonagh is satirical. Connor McPherson is spiritual, Jim Sheridan is political, Roddy Doyle is gritty and witty. I have not seen Chasing Shackleton and Inside Llewyn Davis, so those are now on my radar. Having seen two Irish plays on Broadway last year, Outside Mullingar and The Cripple of Inishmaan, I have to say there are times when I think that the world sees us as Happy Go Lucky gobshites! Sad to say.</p> Hi Gerry!
(That's funny as I…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-01-21:6442157:Comment:1391112015-01-21T13:07:10.159ZPatdee Mullarkeyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/PatriciaDMullarkey
<p>Hi Gerry!</p>
<p>(That's funny as I only watched it for a couple seasons at the start!) From what I remember, he said he could go to Dublin and write for a newspaper. He was a writer. Somehow I remember it being independence-leaning, and he certainly had that leaning, at least in the beginning. After joining the family that whole storyline was dropped (unless they brought it up again in the newer seasons). His being a writer came up only a few times as how he would make money if they ran…</p>
<p>Hi Gerry!</p>
<p>(That's funny as I only watched it for a couple seasons at the start!) From what I remember, he said he could go to Dublin and write for a newspaper. He was a writer. Somehow I remember it being independence-leaning, and he certainly had that leaning, at least in the beginning. After joining the family that whole storyline was dropped (unless they brought it up again in the newer seasons). His being a writer came up only a few times as how he would make money if they ran away. I can't remember whether it was explained more than that.</p>
<p>And the remark about the nanny's comments about his baby.... making the lower-class woman the villain and the aristocrat taking umbrage is really just another attempt to make the rich look kind, democratic, intelligent, not bigots, and the servant as deserving of contempt. The old switcheroo. BUT, people enjoying doesn't bother me, and for heaven's sake, it's their right! But, most things are not above criticism... must less a "soap opera". Cheers!</p> Do you mean Thomas, the forme…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-01-20:6442157:Comment:1390242015-01-20T21:50:06.929ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>Do you mean Thomas, the former chauffeur, Patdee? I'm not aware that he ever toiled as a journalist, but I missed the first 2 seasons.</p>
<p>Do you mean Thomas, the former chauffeur, Patdee? I'm not aware that he ever toiled as a journalist, but I missed the first 2 seasons.</p> I have to disagree. As soon a…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-01-20:6442157:Comment:1388602015-01-20T17:57:03.412ZPatdee Mullarkeyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/PatriciaDMullarkey
<p>I have to disagree. As soon as they took the Irish rebel journalist into their family it lost all credibility. It is a distortion of history. Yes, there should be some artistic license, but I worry about the current trend to revise history, especially English and Irish. Julian Fellowes has a political agenda.</p>
<p>That said everybody has a right to watch what they want. But, people also have the right to criticize. Maureen Dowd isn't the only one who has brought up the issues. Obviously,…</p>
<p>I have to disagree. As soon as they took the Irish rebel journalist into their family it lost all credibility. It is a distortion of history. Yes, there should be some artistic license, but I worry about the current trend to revise history, especially English and Irish. Julian Fellowes has a political agenda.</p>
<p>That said everybody has a right to watch what they want. But, people also have the right to criticize. Maureen Dowd isn't the only one who has brought up the issues. Obviously, I am one of the thousands.</p>
<p>OK, you can start rolling your eyes. :)</p> Ryan, it is only with great d…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-05-17:6442157:Comment:936422014-05-17T20:14:05.945ZJames McNamarahttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/JamesMcNamara
<p>Ryan, it is only with great difficulty can I watch a soap, even a well made one.</p>
<p>The last film I really enjoyed was "The Field" with Richard Harris as the Irishman to whom the land is everything and Tom Berenger as the American who want to pave over the field and their struggle to get the widow's field. It is a social commentary, meant to be taking place in the 1940s. I'm not sure it paints the Irish in a good light, as it has so many dark moments of the struggle of the farmer doing…</p>
<p>Ryan, it is only with great difficulty can I watch a soap, even a well made one.</p>
<p>The last film I really enjoyed was "The Field" with Richard Harris as the Irishman to whom the land is everything and Tom Berenger as the American who want to pave over the field and their struggle to get the widow's field. It is a social commentary, meant to be taking place in the 1940s. I'm not sure it paints the Irish in a good light, as it has so many dark moments of the struggle of the farmer doing his best with the old ways and only in the end does he realize that his son has not exactly followed his ways but his intent. A tragic tale that earned Richard Harris his 1991 Oscar nomination.</p>
<p>Currently, I am reading Philomena another sad tale of the treatment of unwed mothers and their children.</p>
<p>Tragedy is everywhere.</p> Thank you, Alan. You've said…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-01-18:6442157:Comment:727862014-01-18T09:32:04.310ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>Thank you, Alan. You've said it much better than I.</p>
<p>Thank you, Alan. You've said it much better than I.</p> I feel she's missing the poin…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-01-15:6442157:Comment:724822014-01-15T09:35:06.122ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>I feel she's missing the point. In the first paragraph she is calling all who watch the show (Americans singled out in particular for some reason) snobs and elitists. Why? Especially when, from what I understand, the most popular characters are the chambermaid and the chauffeur? The struggles of the working people in the show are presented alongside those of the nobility, sometimes making the upper class look petty in comparison. She claims the writers <em>don't</em> show how cruel the…</p>
<p>I feel she's missing the point. In the first paragraph she is calling all who watch the show (Americans singled out in particular for some reason) snobs and elitists. Why? Especially when, from what I understand, the most popular characters are the chambermaid and the chauffeur? The struggles of the working people in the show are presented alongside those of the nobility, sometimes making the upper class look petty in comparison. She claims the writers <em>don't</em> show how cruel the nobility could be to their servants, then immediately expresses horror that they DO. You can't have it both ways. If she doesn't like the show, that's fine. I just think her analysis is flawed and overblown. Is her next piece going to be on how we all want to be meth cooks because we watch Breaking Bad?</p> Haha, yeah that's the one. H…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-01-14:6442157:Comment:727042014-01-14T21:28:28.922ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>Haha, yeah that's the one.<em> </em> Here's 2 more: Ms. Dowd is getting her knickers in a twist over a tempest in a teapot!</p>
<p>Haha, yeah that's the one.<em> </em> Here's 2 more: Ms. Dowd is getting her knickers in a twist over a tempest in a teapot!</p> Eww - yeah, she was evil.
tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-01-14:6442157:Comment:727022014-01-14T21:08:18.302ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>Eww - yeah, she was evil.</p>
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<p>Eww - yeah, she was evil.</p>
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