Irish-Operated Carriage Horses -- A Stroll in the Park or Slave Labor? - The Wild Geese2024-03-28T20:20:27Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topics/irish-operated-carriage-horses-a-stroll-in-the-park-or-slave-labo?commentId=6442157%3AComment%3A76969&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThis agreement has long range…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-12-10:6442157:Comment:1317392014-12-10T12:26:39.321ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>This agreement has long ranged in places where donkey and horses are abused for the sake of tourism and the financial gain.</p>
<p>In Backpool UK - Horse + Carriage is endemic in this state . Now there are Princess carriages added to the list of the abusive trade . With People hiring them for weddings hen nights and all other social occasions. .</p>
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<p>Car /Coaches were engineered for the express purpose of transporting people - so why abuse the poor animals left to stand in all…</p>
<p>This agreement has long ranged in places where donkey and horses are abused for the sake of tourism and the financial gain.</p>
<p>In Backpool UK - Horse + Carriage is endemic in this state . Now there are Princess carriages added to the list of the abusive trade . With People hiring them for weddings hen nights and all other social occasions. .</p>
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<p>Car /Coaches were engineered for the express purpose of transporting people - so why abuse the poor animals left to stand in all weathers . </p>
<p>Is it really just a link too the past ! </p>
<p>Lets free all animals all over teh world from being abused for tourism and financial Gain </p>
<p> </p> NY horse with carriage.jpgtag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-12-10:6442157:Comment:1317302014-12-10T00:05:56.289ZGael Murphyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/GaelMurphy
<p><a>NY horse with carriage.jpg</a></p>
<p><a>NY horse with carriage.jpg</a></p> Yes -- Racism is a very impo…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-11-20:6442157:Comment:1286632014-11-20T22:40:30.965ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Yes -- Racism is a very important debate and all of us all over the world should get involved .</p>
<p>Racism ; anti Gays ; discrimination of all kinds should be debated at every level of society It is that important .</p>
<p>Yes -- Racism is a very important debate and all of us all over the world should get involved .</p>
<p>Racism ; anti Gays ; discrimination of all kinds should be debated at every level of society It is that important .</p> A brief comment from 'the Afr…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-11-20:6442157:Comment:1285612014-11-20T15:57:31.724ZRose Maurerhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RoseMaurer
<p>A brief comment from 'the African kid's mother'. I cannot believe this argument is still raging! That said, congratulations to Gerry for initiating an interesting and important topic.</p>
<p>A brief comment from 'the African kid's mother'. I cannot believe this argument is still raging! That said, congratulations to Gerry for initiating an interesting and important topic.</p> I do not know the history of…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-11-20:6442157:Comment:1286362014-11-20T14:50:23.426ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>I do not know the history of your argument about racism. What I would like to say is that - in my role as a Social Worker in many different Departments in the Social Service sin England ; I found Racism to be endemic util I w as bold enough to challenge it . </p>
<p>I do not know the history of your argument about racism. What I would like to say is that - in my role as a Social Worker in many different Departments in the Social Service sin England ; I found Racism to be endemic util I w as bold enough to challenge it . </p> Ryan, a personal thank you to…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-03-11:6442157:Comment:826072014-03-11T19:14:28.692ZRose Maurerhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RoseMaurer
<p>Ryan, a personal thank you to for your moderating efforts at what amounted to a personal attack on myself, and the likes of which I have never before encountered on TWG. I do need to clarify a few facts, after which I shall exit this particular discussion permanently.</p>
<p>My daughter, at age 23, had already been awarded 3 University Degrees, and was, as I mentioned au pairing in the USA. The description of her as 'an African kid' is racist and degrading - I wrote the comment, as a 40 year…</p>
<p>Ryan, a personal thank you to for your moderating efforts at what amounted to a personal attack on myself, and the likes of which I have never before encountered on TWG. I do need to clarify a few facts, after which I shall exit this particular discussion permanently.</p>
<p>My daughter, at age 23, had already been awarded 3 University Degrees, and was, as I mentioned au pairing in the USA. The description of her as 'an African kid' is racist and degrading - I wrote the comment, as a 40 year old Psychologist with 5 University Degrees - two of which are Master's Degrees, in Psychology and Law respectively. I make mention of our respective levels of education in support of an innocent observation which I posted.</p>
<p>Finis.</p> Gael,
You're doing it again..…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-03-11:6442157:Comment:825352014-03-11T18:31:13.420ZVirginia Purcell JImenezhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/VirginiaPurcellJImenez
<p>Gael,</p>
<p>You're doing it again............You lose all credibility when you go on the attack instead of just attempting to make your points.</p>
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<p>Gael,</p>
<p>You're doing it again............You lose all credibility when you go on the attack instead of just attempting to make your points.</p>
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<p></p> I found your argument above a…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-03-11:6442157:Comment:824422014-03-11T18:21:07.494ZVirginia Purcell JImenezhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/VirginiaPurcellJImenez
<p>I found your argument above a healthy one unlike the nasty attacking responses you had previous submitted. Again though, I disagree with it.</p>
<p> It is difficult to believe that the mayor was voted into office just because he promised to end the "abusive" carriage horse trade......during the campaign this was hardly mentioned. He may have garnered some votes because of his stance but more than likely they were from his political cronies who are looking to make money off the property…</p>
<p>I found your argument above a healthy one unlike the nasty attacking responses you had previous submitted. Again though, I disagree with it.</p>
<p> It is difficult to believe that the mayor was voted into office just because he promised to end the "abusive" carriage horse trade......during the campaign this was hardly mentioned. He may have garnered some votes because of his stance but more than likely they were from his political cronies who are looking to make money off the property that is currently used for the carriage trade horses. On the whole, the citizenry of the city go about their days rarely thinking of the horses and the other "touristy" aspects of the park. I would even venture to say that the majority of the populace haven't even seen them at work.</p>
<p> A majority did vote in the mayor because of his views about "stop and search', education and his attitudes toward police, firefighters and the more day to day operation of safety and security within the city....choosing him over his opponent because the majority of his policies agreed with theirs. I don't believe that his election was in anyway a mandate to close down the stables. </p>
<p>What I have seen of the horses differs from yours.......I have never seen "exhausted, battered horses" walking through the park. I have been witness to them working in light snow and rain....but never in unreasonable conditions. I have seen the difficulties manuvering through traffic around Columbus Circle /59th St. and the rude insensitive drivers {in the cars} hitting their horns and cutting off the path of the carriages to the park entrance. This not the fault of the carriage drivers. I would like to see the elimination of the necessity to enter onto the city streets......and that they be limited to stay within the park on the cart paths. </p>
<p>I agree that outside interests should not be marshalled in support or in protest to a city problem.. That is my feeling on all matters whether it be the carriage horses or neighborhood school issues. </p>
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<p></p> The vitriol in every response…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-03-11:6442157:Comment:824392014-03-11T16:37:27.316ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p>The vitriol in every response is remarkable, Gael.</p>
<p>The vitriol in every response is remarkable, Gael.</p> http://www.horseswithoutcarri…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-03-11:6442157:Comment:823462014-03-11T16:18:44.244ZGael Murphyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/GaelMurphy
<p><a href="http://www.horseswithoutcarriages.org/cheever.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.horseswithoutcarriages.org/cheever.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.horseswithoutcarriages.org/cheever.shtml" target="_blank">http://www.horseswithoutcarriages.org/cheever.shtml</a></p>