Ancestors! - The Wild Geese2024-03-29T15:43:43Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topics/ancestors?commentId=6442157%3AComment%3A58674&feed=yes&xn_auth=noThanks to Ger Reagan for dire…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-11-03:6442157:Comment:604222013-11-03T10:27:11.483ZRose Maurerhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RoseMaurer
<p>Thanks to Ger Reagan for directing me to this post, and to Tom O Connor for a fascinating exposition of the possible genetic inheritance from King Niall, accompanied by the useful tags. I shall follow them up, but with research, the ultimate conclusions depend to a great extent on the size of the original sample population of people who obligingly supplied their DNA - false positive results can be obtained when results from a small sample are extrapolated. Some interesting tags to follow,…</p>
<p>Thanks to Ger Reagan for directing me to this post, and to Tom O Connor for a fascinating exposition of the possible genetic inheritance from King Niall, accompanied by the useful tags. I shall follow them up, but with research, the ultimate conclusions depend to a great extent on the size of the original sample population of people who obligingly supplied their DNA - false positive results can be obtained when results from a small sample are extrapolated. Some interesting tags to follow, which will take time and data!</p> "The most prolific warrior in…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-11-02:6442157:Comment:602372013-11-02T17:26:45.433ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>"The most prolific warrior in Irish history. ... " Indeed, with his progeny 3 million strong! Is there a suggestion here, Tom, that Niall is the Irish version of Ghenghis Khan, who spread his DNA so lavishly in his depradations across Asia and into Europe?</p>
<p>"The most prolific warrior in Irish history. ... " Indeed, with his progeny 3 million strong! Is there a suggestion here, Tom, that Niall is the Irish version of Ghenghis Khan, who spread his DNA so lavishly in his depradations across Asia and into Europe?</p> more likely that the so calle…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-27:6442157:Comment:593452013-10-27T16:51:55.192Zjohn killileahttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/johnkillilea
<p>more likely that the so called O'neill dna is rather conn's dna- and it is erroneous to describe niall as illegitimate- in gaelic law any child acknowledged by the father was legitimate- which is what the English used to legitimize hugh O neill- to their sorrow</p>
<p>more likely that the so called O'neill dna is rather conn's dna- and it is erroneous to describe niall as illegitimate- in gaelic law any child acknowledged by the father was legitimate- which is what the English used to legitimize hugh O neill- to their sorrow</p> Fascinating stuff. Hopefully…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-24:6442157:Comment:586742013-10-24T14:15:07.815ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p>Fascinating stuff. Hopefully we'll get some solid answers over time.</p>
<p>Fascinating stuff. Hopefully we'll get some solid answers over time.</p> Trinity College Researchers f…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-24:6442157:Comment:586732013-10-24T13:56:33.927ZTom O Connorhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/TomOConnor
<p>Trinity College Researchers found that as many as one in 12 men in Ireland have the same DNA as Niall of the Nine Hostages – and in Ireland’s Northwest, that figure rises to one in five. However, despite the fact that pseudo historians claim that the Ui Neill descendants of Niall reigned as High Kings of Ireland at Tara for several centuries, their DNA markers are conspicuous by their absence around the Tara district. What does this tell us!</p>
<p>Trinity College Researchers found that as many as one in 12 men in Ireland have the same DNA as Niall of the Nine Hostages – and in Ireland’s Northwest, that figure rises to one in five. However, despite the fact that pseudo historians claim that the Ui Neill descendants of Niall reigned as High Kings of Ireland at Tara for several centuries, their DNA markers are conspicuous by their absence around the Tara district. What does this tell us!</p> The northwest of Ireland ...…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-22:6442157:Comment:584202013-10-22T10:15:58.010ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p>The northwest of Ireland ... the best part! :-)</p>
<p>The northwest of Ireland ... the best part! :-)</p> Míle buíochas Bit,
I so appre…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-22:6442157:Comment:585192013-10-22T10:13:00.168ZRose Maurerhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RoseMaurer
<p>Míle buíochas Bit,</p>
<p>I so appreciate your encouragement - I shall persevere!</p>
<p>Coinnigh go maith, Rose.</p>
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<p>Míle buíochas Bit,</p>
<p>I so appreciate your encouragement - I shall persevere!</p>
<p>Coinnigh go maith, Rose.</p>
<p></p> That puts it very nicely, Bit…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-22:6442157:Comment:584112013-10-22T02:03:07.541ZTom O Connorhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/TomOConnor
<p>That puts it very nicely, Bit. Niall won sword-land for himself and his family in the Northwest of Ireland. It was from there that the Ui Neill later spread out. But Niall never set foot on Tara. The Cruthin of Ulster finally lost control of Tara only by 637AD.</p>
<p>That puts it very nicely, Bit. Niall won sword-land for himself and his family in the Northwest of Ireland. It was from there that the Ui Neill later spread out. But Niall never set foot on Tara. The Cruthin of Ulster finally lost control of Tara only by 637AD.</p> Rose, a chara,
With so much t…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-21:6442157:Comment:579702013-10-21T16:06:46.292ZBit Devinehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BitDevine
<p>Rose, a chara,</p>
<p>With so much traveling and commerce done between the islands, there is always a chance of Irish blood in the mix. My better half's family, on the maternal side, trace back to Wales but were Ship's Captains out of Cork.</p>
<p>Rose, a chara,</p>
<p>With so much traveling and commerce done between the islands, there is always a chance of Irish blood in the mix. My better half's family, on the maternal side, trace back to Wales but were Ship's Captains out of Cork.</p> In my Celtic studies lectures…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2013-10-21:6442157:Comment:580702013-10-21T16:02:50.869ZBit Devinehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BitDevine
<p>In my Celtic studies lectures back in University...which was a while ago, it was taught that whilst he didn't hold a King's title on the same level as the legitimate sons, he did hold a lesser title and was given the "less desirable" lands over which to reign. A sort of banishment with privileges.</p>
<p>In my Celtic studies lectures back in University...which was a while ago, it was taught that whilst he didn't hold a King's title on the same level as the legitimate sons, he did hold a lesser title and was given the "less desirable" lands over which to reign. A sort of banishment with privileges.</p>