Comments - Orangeman Claims 'Irish Language has Become Political' - The Wild Geese2024-03-29T00:17:06Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profiles/comment/feed?attachedTo=6442157%3ABlogPost%3A78837&xn_auth=noSad to think there is more Ir…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-27:6442157:Comment:803162014-02-27T23:39:39.583ZBernie Joycehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BernieJoyce
<p>Sad to think there is more Irish speakers outside of the country than living here but I bet there is also more pride and respect for it also abroad. I do'nt believe in forcing or shaming anyone into learning it but I am sick to death of people putting it down. I do'nt know any European country where their citizens look down at their own culture like some of the Irish do in this country. It makes us all look like we know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.</p>
<p>Sad to think there is more Irish speakers outside of the country than living here but I bet there is also more pride and respect for it also abroad. I do'nt believe in forcing or shaming anyone into learning it but I am sick to death of people putting it down. I do'nt know any European country where their citizens look down at their own culture like some of the Irish do in this country. It makes us all look like we know the cost of everything and the value of nothing.</p> I have been taken to task on…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:798572014-02-26T21:43:42.889ZBit Devinehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BitDevine
<p>I have been taken to task on more than one occasion in Northern Irish forums for "speaking a foriegn language" when I have thanked them for an assist with "go raibh mile maith agat"</p>
<p>When I met my Gran's cousins for the first time in Armagh in 2009, the first five minutes was in Irish, them rapid fire and me labouring to recall my phrasings. It was their way of testing me, perhaps.</p>
<p>Not one to back down from an antagonist, I have been known to reply "the only foriegn language in…</p>
<p>I have been taken to task on more than one occasion in Northern Irish forums for "speaking a foriegn language" when I have thanked them for an assist with "go raibh mile maith agat"</p>
<p>When I met my Gran's cousins for the first time in Armagh in 2009, the first five minutes was in Irish, them rapid fire and me labouring to recall my phrasings. It was their way of testing me, perhaps.</p>
<p>Not one to back down from an antagonist, I have been known to reply "the only foriegn language in these counties is English<br/><br/>Researchers have said that there are more Irish speakers outside of Ireland than within. I find that sad. As the elders die off, who will pass along this rich language? <br/><br/>I am heartened by the growing number of pop songs being introduced in the Irish language. It is a great way to gain and hold the interest of the younger people.<br/><br/></p> No sweat, Kelly. I agree with…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:796752014-02-26T17:35:03.707ZRiocard Ó Tiarnaighhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RiocardOTiarnaigh
<p>No sweat, Kelly. I agree with your neighbours. That article in the Limerick Leader was scurrilous!!!</p>
<p>No sweat, Kelly. I agree with your neighbours. That article in the Limerick Leader was scurrilous!!!</p> No, sorry Riocard. I meant t…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:795922014-02-26T17:26:40.744ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>No, sorry Riocard. I meant the article Bernie posted from the Limerick Leader there, not the youtube video. Sorry for the confusion.</p>
<p>No, sorry Riocard. I meant the article Bernie posted from the Limerick Leader there, not the youtube video. Sorry for the confusion.</p> Kelly, I too watched Bláthnai…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:797412014-02-26T16:44:01.620ZRiocard Ó Tiarnaighhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RiocardOTiarnaigh
<p>Kelly, I too watched Bláthnaid being interviewed by Brendan O'Connor. I thought she put the point of view of Irish speakers across very well. I would be interested to hear, what exactly your Connemara neighbours found insulting. </p>
<p>Kelly, I too watched Bláthnaid being interviewed by Brendan O'Connor. I thought she put the point of view of Irish speakers across very well. I would be interested to hear, what exactly your Connemara neighbours found insulting. </p> The article that Bernie poste…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:796692014-02-26T14:52:56.189ZKelly O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KellyORourke
<p>The article that Bernie posted there has been all over my facebook newsfeed. My Connemara neighbours found her words quite insulting, and many of them were at one of the marches.</p>
<p>The article that Bernie posted there has been all over my facebook newsfeed. My Connemara neighbours found her words quite insulting, and many of them were at one of the marches.</p> Thank you for sharing these w…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-26:6442157:Comment:795822014-02-26T07:43:57.477ZSusan McWilliams Lev-Yadunhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/SusanLevYadun
<p>Thank you for sharing these with us, Bernie. I have no hope of ever learning more than a few phrases of the language myself, but the Irish are blessed to have the opportunity to learn and keep it alive.</p>
<p>Thank you for sharing these with us, Bernie. I have no hope of ever learning more than a few phrases of the language myself, but the Irish are blessed to have the opportunity to learn and keep it alive.</p> http://www.youtube.com/watch?…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-25:6442157:Comment:795742014-02-25T23:47:37.141ZBernie Joycehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BernieJoyce
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqFAINVgY0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqFAINVgY0</a></p>
<p>Bláthnadh specking on Saturday Night Live about her experience of speaking Irish</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqFAINVgY0" target="_blank">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhqFAINVgY0</a></p>
<p>Bláthnadh specking on Saturday Night Live about her experience of speaking Irish</p> http://www.limerickleader.ie/…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-25:6442157:Comment:797072014-02-25T23:10:55.935ZBernie Joycehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BernieJoyce
<p><a href="http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/opinion-our-next-storm-is-coming-from-the-gaeltacht-1-5888753" target="_blank">http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/opinion-our-next-storm-is-coming-from-the-gaeltacht-1-5888753</a></p>
<p>The English might have made the language political when they outlawed it how many centuries ago? But it is the Irish people (some) who are doing damage to it now by saying things like "We should abolish the Irish language in schools and learn German or Chinese…</p>
<p><a href="http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/opinion-our-next-storm-is-coming-from-the-gaeltacht-1-5888753" target="_blank">http://www.limerickleader.ie/news/opinion-our-next-storm-is-coming-from-the-gaeltacht-1-5888753</a></p>
<p>The English might have made the language political when they outlawed it how many centuries ago? But it is the Irish people (some) who are doing damage to it now by saying things like "We should abolish the Irish language in schools and learn German or Chinese instead". Check out the above link to see what I mean. I am sick of Irish people putting their own culture down. Most countries are proud of their heritage but there are a lot of people like the journalist who wroth the article who do not value our culture or language and feel it is a waste of money. If we look down on ourselves than it opens the flood gates for everyone else to ridicule us.</p> I wanted to add to this the o…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-02-24:6442157:Comment:794402014-02-24T21:27:29.694ZSusan McWilliams Lev-Yadunhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/SusanLevYadun
<p>I wanted to add to this the other day when I first saw this. I agree with what John said, and Ryan too.</p>
<p>Here is what I wanted to add:</p>
<p>The Irish language was suppressed in one way or another, whether or not official, for centuries. The only two cases Padraig Pearse tried after being called to the bar, involved his clients' right to use Irish for their names on their carts, which was against the law. At the time he believed in trying to change the law. He lost both these cases.…</p>
<p>I wanted to add to this the other day when I first saw this. I agree with what John said, and Ryan too.</p>
<p>Here is what I wanted to add:</p>
<p>The Irish language was suppressed in one way or another, whether or not official, for centuries. The only two cases Padraig Pearse tried after being called to the bar, involved his clients' right to use Irish for their names on their carts, which was against the law. At the time he believed in trying to change the law. He lost both these cases. His role in reviving the Irish language, both through his writings and through his school, St Enda’s, cannot be overstated. I just want to say that deciding to learn a language <em>can</em> be regarded as a political statement. Of course what the article claimed was that the teaching of the language was political. And if it is? See this video for the part about Pearse's cases:</p>
<p>(the last four minutes)</p>
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