Featured Discussions - The Wild Geese2024-03-29T12:04:37Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topic/list?groupUrl=irish-ancestry&feed=yes&xn_auth=no&featured=1Seeking Information About Harty Family Originally From County Corktag:thewildgeese.irish,2018-01-12:6442157:Topic:2278232018-01-12T19:08:30.974Zblakehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/blake
<p>I am searching for information about for harty family and their origin from county cork and Lismore who moved to Newfoundland in the late 1700s, very early 1800s. What would be the best trails for me to follow?. I have names and places in Newfoundland like Michael harty in Broad Cove Bonavista Bay Newfoundand,</p>
<p>or in King Cove Newfoundand, in 1830 but I can't track backward. All my grandmother said was that the Hartys were from Cork.</p>
<p>I am searching for information about for harty family and their origin from county cork and Lismore who moved to Newfoundland in the late 1700s, very early 1800s. What would be the best trails for me to follow?. I have names and places in Newfoundland like Michael harty in Broad Cove Bonavista Bay Newfoundand,</p>
<p>or in King Cove Newfoundand, in 1830 but I can't track backward. All my grandmother said was that the Hartys were from Cork.</p> Free access to NEHGS databasestag:thewildgeese.irish,2018-01-03:6442157:Topic:2276712018-01-03T15:34:48.801ZKieron Punchhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KieronPunch
<p>The New England Historic Genealogical Society is offering FREE access to many of its databases, covering 1.4 billion names, until 23:59 on Wednesday 10th January, 2017. Sign up for a free account at the following:<br/><a href="https://www.americanancestors.org/Free-Billion">https://www.americanancestors.org/Free-Billion</a></p>
<p>The New England Historic Genealogical Society is offering FREE access to many of its databases, covering 1.4 billion names, until 23:59 on Wednesday 10th January, 2017. Sign up for a free account at the following:<br/><a href="https://www.americanancestors.org/Free-Billion">https://www.americanancestors.org/Free-Billion</a></p> Martin, Jamison, Kinnear, Little, and Adair in Down before 1830tag:thewildgeese.irish,2016-07-26:6442157:Topic:1959142016-07-26T09:31:09.307ZBeth Goldenhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/BethGolden
<p><strong><span class="font-size-5"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg/310px-Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg?width=275" target="_blank"><img class="align-left" src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg/310px-Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg?width=310" width="310"></img></a> I</span>'m hoping someone will have some suggestions for tracing my Martin and Jamison ancestry</strong> in Down prior to 1830. With Martin and Jamison being so very common in Down, and with these families being poor, and finally with the loss of records because of…</p>
<p><strong><span class="font-size-5"><a href="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg/310px-Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg?width=275" target="_blank"><img src="https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/35/Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg/310px-Dundrum_Castle%2C_Co_Down%2C_1791.jpg?width=310" width="310" class="align-left"/></a>I</span>'m hoping someone will have some suggestions for tracing my Martin and Jamison ancestry</strong> in Down prior to 1830. With Martin and Jamison being so very common in Down, and with these families being poor, and finally with the loss of records because of conflicts in Down, I'm having a hard time determining my ancestors. I've searched over the last 15 years, nearly everywhere online. I've contacted churches where I know marriages took place. I've posted numerous queries on many message boards. I've even taken an atDNA test in hopes of finding cousins who have had better luck in finding our ancestors. Plus, I've scoured Down cemetery listings. All to no avail. To make my search even more confusing, is that my MARTIN ancestors were weavers and my LITTLE ancestors blacksmiths, so they moved around within Down to have employment.</p>
<p class="mw-mmv-credit mw-mmv-ttf-container mw-mmv-ttf-normal"><span class="mw-mmv-source-author"><strong><span class="mw-mmv-author">Above, Dundrum Castle, County Down, 1791, from </span></strong><span class="mw-mmv-source"><strong><i>Antiquities of Ireland</i> by <span class="mw-mmv-author">Captain Francis</span> Grose. via Wikimedia Commons</strong><br/></span></span></p>
<p>In hopes that possible cousins read this post, here are the condensed specifics of what I know so far:</p>
<p>Joseph MARTIN was born about 1807. He and Elizabeth "Betsy" JAMISON were married about 1832 likely in Dromore, Down. Betsy may be the daughter of George JAMISON and Elizabeth KINNEAR. They had a daughter Elizabeth born 3 May 1810 Dromore.</p>
<p>Betsy, my 3rd great grandmother, died before August 1836, as Joseph married Mary ADAIR on 1 August 1836 Dromara Presbyterian Church. She the daughter of John ADAIR and Mary SHAW, born in 1807 in Dromara.</p>
<p>Joseph and Betsy's daughter Elizabeth Jamison Martin, was born 1832 in Dromore. She married David LITTLE 1 Oct 1856, Banbridge Presbyterian (Dromore). David the son of Andrew was born 1834. Both David and his father were blacksmiths. Joseph lists Lisnacurran as his residence and Andrew, Dromore on Elizabeth's and David's marriage certificate.</p>
<p>Joseph, Mary and all of the children (Betsy's and Mary's), including new son-in-law David Little went to the US in November 1856. They settled in western Maryland, now Garrett County.</p>
<p>I doubt that I'm the only one trying to narrow down a popular surname before 1830 in Down and elsewhere in Ireland, so figured any responses might be helpful to others and okay to post this here.</p>
<p>Thanks for any guidance; and hope to connect with cousins, however distant.</p>
<p>Beth Golden<br/> Decatur, GA, US</p> FindMyPast Buys Mocavo: Genealogy for the 21st Centurytag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-06-24:6442157:Topic:1021032014-06-24T15:51:23.780ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p class="p1"><b><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122492227?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-left" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122492227?profile=RESIZE_320x320" style="padding: 2px;" width="300"></img></a> London, UK, 23 June 2014</b>. <a href="http://www.findmypast.com/"><span class="s2">Findmypast</span></a>, the leading British family history company, announced today that it has acquired <a href="http://www.mocavo.com/"><span class="s2">Mocavo</span></a>, the fastest growing genealogy company in the US.</p>
<p class="p3">Findmypast, the leading brand in the DC…</p>
<p class="p1"><b><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122492227?profile=original" target="_self"><img width="300" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122492227?profile=RESIZE_320x320" width="300" class="align-left" style="padding: 2px;"/></a>London, UK, 23 June 2014</b>. <a href="http://www.findmypast.com/"><span class="s2">Findmypast</span></a>, the leading British family history company, announced today that it has acquired <a href="http://www.mocavo.com/"><span class="s2">Mocavo</span></a>, the fastest growing genealogy company in the US.</p>
<p class="p3">Findmypast, the leading brand in the DC Thomson Family History portfolio, has been at the forefront of the British family history market for over a decade. It has an established collection of 1.8 billion historical records and an extensive network of partners including the British Library, the Imperial War Museum, the Allen County Public Library and Family Search.</p>
<p class="p3">Founded by Cliff Shaw in 2011, Mocavo is a technological innovator in the genealogy industry. Its highly sophisticated search engine brings together, in one place, a diverse range of sources, such as family history record indexes, school and college yearbooks, church records and biographies, which help millions of family history enthusiasts to fill in blanks in their family trees and add colour to their family stories. </p>
<p class="p3">This acquisition, coupled with the recent tender win of the 1939 Register for England and Wales and the purchase of Origins.net, forms an important part of the growth strategy set out by Annelies van den Belt, CEO of Findmypast, and her new team.</p>
<p class="p3">Together Findmypast and Mocavo will create one of the fastest growing global genealogy businesses. The two companies will provide customers with easier access and more relevant information to help add colour and depth to family history. Additionally, they both remain committed to delivering on Mocavo’s promise to provide free access to family history records on an individual database level forever. Toward that commitment, Findmypast is announcing today that the full indexes to the US Census from 1790 to 1940 are available for free at <a href="http://www.mocavo.com/"><span class="s2">Mocavo.com</span></a>. </p>
<p class="p3">Mocavo will become a fully-owned subsidiary of Findmypast. It joins the Findmypast family of brands including the British Newspaper Archive, Genes Reunited and Lives of the First World War.</p>
<p class="p3">Annelies van den Belt, CEO of Findmypast, said: “Findmypast’s strategy is about growth and the US market is key. Our purchase of Mocavo, combined with our existing US customer base, gives us an excellent platform for expansion in the world’s number one genealogy market. Together we can provide a dynamic family history experience that offers customers the opportunity to make a real connection with their family heritage.”</p>
<p class="p3">Cliff Shaw, founder and CEO of Mocavo, said: “We are thrilled to join forces with Findmypast and become a part of their family of leading brands. The combination of our companies will provide family history enthusiasts with unprecedented access to the stories of their ancestors. Expect Mocavo to grow stronger with Findmypast’s support and to continue to drive innovation in the family history category.”</p>
<p class="p3">Joshua Taylor, newly appointed Director of Family History, Findmypast, said: “Our heritage and rich record collections coupled with Mocavo’s sophisticated technology will make for a powerful combination enabling us to offer our customers even more ways to unlock the fascinating stories within their family history.”</p>
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<p class="p3">Notes to Editors</p>
<p class="p4"><b>About Findmypast</b></p>
<p class="p3">Findmypast has been a leading family history website for more than 10 years. In April 2003 the company was the first to provide access to the complete birth, marriage, and death indexes for England & Wales, winning the Queen’s Award for Innovation. Since that time, Findmypast has digitised family history records from across the globe, including major collections from Britain, Ireland, Australia, and the United States. With more than 1.8 billion records online, Findmypast offers access to military, census, immigration, education, occupation, and parish records from around the world. In partnership with the British Library, Findmypast is part of a 10 year project to safeguard the future of the world’s greatest newspaper archive – allowing digital access to more than 40 million newspaper pages. The National Archives recently awarded the company the contract to put the 1939 Register for England and Wales online. Findmypast is the leading brand in the DC Thomson Family History portfolio.</p>
<p class="p5"><b>About Mocavo</b></p>
<p class="p5">With the help of our partners and community members Mocavo is changing the way you learn about your family history. For years, valuable information has been inaccessible, either scattered across hard to find websites, or gathering dust and deteriorating in attics and basements. Mocavo provides free access to family history records forever. We launch 1,000 new collections every day and we never stop looking for more information to help you discover your story and pass it on. Our search engine scours millions of hard-to-find genealogy Web pages and we publish thousands of new records every week that you can view for free forever. Mocavo’s research tools speed up your discoveries and help you preserve your family’s story. At Mocavo you’ll become a better genealogist with the help of a growing community of researchers who share information and tips with you.</p>
<p class="p5"><b>For further information please contact</b> <span class="s3"><b><a href="mailto:press@dctfh.com">press@dctfh.com</a></b></span></p> Dempseys County Kildaretag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-05-29:6442157:Topic:955232014-05-29T21:55:18.630ZAl Sheppardhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/AlSheppard
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<p><span class="font-size-2" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Anyone out there related to <strong>Jack Dempsey</strong> (America boxer)? My grandmother was his 1st cousin.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Thanks, Al…</span></p>
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<p><span class="font-size-2" style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Anyone out there related to <strong>Jack Dempsey</strong> (America boxer)? My grandmother was his 1st cousin.</span></p>
<p><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;">Thanks, Al Sheppard</span></p> 45 Reasons to Research Immigration Recordstag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-04-25:6442157:Topic:901432014-04-25T12:37:17.120ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
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<p>I wanted to share this excellent blog post from a good website called The Ancestor Hunt. It lists 45 reasons why we should be researching immigration records in our genealogical research. The idea is that some of these records include some very interesting and obscure information about our ancestors, including such things as hair colour, eye colour, if they…</p>
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<p>I wanted to share this excellent blog post from a good website called The Ancestor Hunt. It lists 45 reasons why we should be researching immigration records in our genealogical research. The idea is that some of these records include some very interesting and obscure information about our ancestors, including such things as hair colour, eye colour, if they were an anarchist or polygamist. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.theancestorhunt.com/1/post/2014/04/45-reasons-to-research-immigration-records.html?utm_content=buffer9e38a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer#.U1pVfV5owZa" target="_blank">Read the full article here</a>.</p>
<p></p> The Genetic Imprint of Niall of the Nine Hostagestag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-04-24:6442157:Topic:898992014-04-24T10:47:53.761ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490406?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490406?profile=original" width="620"></img></a> I know the subject of the lineage and DNA link to Niall of the Nine Hostages has been discussed at length over the last several years, but I wanted to let you folks know about a pretty good (and effectively succinct) article published on the subject just recently. Here's an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>One thousand years ago this week, Brian Boru, High King of all Ireland,…</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490406?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490406?profile=original" width="620" class="align-full"/></a>I know the subject of the lineage and DNA link to Niall of the Nine Hostages has been discussed at length over the last several years, but I wanted to let you folks know about a pretty good (and effectively succinct) article published on the subject just recently. Here's an excerpt:</p>
<blockquote><p>One thousand years ago this week, Brian Boru, High King of all Ireland, defeated NorseKing Sitric Silkenbeard of Howth at the Battle of Clontarf. Brian Boru is a hero to many Irish people and widely revered for his great achievements.</p>
<p>Historical records tell us that, among other things, he ended the Uí Néill clan’s 500-year reign as high kings of Ireland, and also, through his victory at Clontarf, kicked theVikings out of Ireland. However, we have an independent record of the past in our genes. We can look to patterns of genetic variation here to ask if Brian Boru was effective on both of these counts.</p>
<p>The Uí Néill clan trace their origins to the perhaps mythical Niall of the Nine Hostages. Niall was supposed to have lived 500 years before the Battle of Clontarf. Using genetics it is possible to trace Niall’s DNA and measure his legacy in terms of how many descendants he left. We can’t go back to AD 500 for a DNA sample, but we can look at modern O’Neills.</p>
<p>Ireland has one of the oldest surname traditions in the world. Also, whereas in other countries names reflect professions or townlands, Irish surnames refer to ancestors. Traditionally, surnames are passed from father to child. Barring adoption and other cases, the handing-down of this outward symbol of family is mirrored exactly by the genetic transmission of Y-chromosomes from fathers to sons. This genetic inheritance forms an unbroken chain from the past to the present.</p>
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<p>You can read the rest of the article <a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/the-genetic-imprint-of-niall-of-the-nine-hostages-1.1771373#.U1jECJliwMq.twitter" target="_blank">here</a>.</p> The Wild Geese’s Latest Initiative: Relentlessly Uncovering Our Irish Ancestrytag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-04-22:6442157:Topic:897202014-04-22T19:21:31.728ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p><strong><span class="font-size-7" style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino;">W</span>e in The Wild Geese social network</strong>, now 13 months old, are experiencing a swell of interest and passion in exploring Irish ancestry among our growing membership. No surprise, considering that we as a community have already produced thousands of pages of content -- articles, photographs, video and audio links, and events -- all with one overarching purpose -- to better understand, and celebrate…</p>
<p><strong><span class="font-size-7" style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino;">W</span>e in The Wild Geese social network</strong>, now 13 months old, are experiencing a swell of interest and passion in exploring Irish ancestry among our growing membership. No surprise, considering that we as a community have already produced thousands of pages of content -- articles, photographs, video and audio links, and events -- all with one overarching purpose -- to better understand, and celebrate the extraordinarily rich Irish experience.</p>
<p>Our newest initiative from The Wild Geese, <strong>‘Uncovering Our Irish Ancestry,’</strong> aims to encourage collaboration between our members and consulting experts as we plumb and share our collective experiences, to help us better chronicle our families’ colorful and distinct Irish histories.</p>
<p>In the days and weeks and months ahead, fellow Wild Geese members will generate and share articles, family trees, research, resources, discussions, tips, and input from genealogical professionals. With this, we fully expect many members to pursue, and overcome, the obstacles that keep us from identifying key individuals, and incidents, in our family histories.</p>
<p><a href="http://thenewwildgeese.com/profiles/blogs/the-wild-geese-s-latest-initiative-relentlessly-uncovering-our-ir" target="_self"><strong>Read more here.</strong></a></p>
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<p></p> Where Do I Start Researching Our Irish Ancestry?tag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-04-17:6442157:Topic:886912014-04-17T18:22:46.108ZKatherine Ross Murphyhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/KatherineRossMurphy
<p>No one in my husbands family knows anything beyond their grandparents. The same is true for my family. I THINK my husbands great grandfather came to the States at the turn of the last century, landing and staying in Hell's Kitchen.<br/> <br/> That's all I know.<br/> <br/> How do I get started?</p>
<p>No one in my husbands family knows anything beyond their grandparents. The same is true for my family. I THINK my husbands great grandfather came to the States at the turn of the last century, landing and staying in Hell's Kitchen.<br/> <br/> That's all I know.<br/> <br/> How do I get started?</p> Original Records Are Rottingtag:thewildgeese.irish,2014-04-14:6442157:Topic:883382014-04-14T22:03:30.093ZRyan O'Rourkehttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/RyanORourke
<p><strong><span class="font-size-7" style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino;"><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490214?profile=original" target="_self"><img class="align-full" src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490214?profile=original" width="750"></img></a> J</span>ohn Grenham</strong> writes in <em>The Irish Times</em> that many of the original records contained in Roman Catholic parish registers are rotting away:</p>
<blockquote><p>Roman Catholic parish registers constitute by far the most important set of records for 19th-century Irish local and…</p>
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<p><strong><span class="font-size-7" style="font-family: 'book antiqua', palatino;"><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490214?profile=original" target="_self"><img src="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/122490214?profile=original" width="750" class="align-full"/></a>J</span>ohn Grenham</strong> writes in <em>The Irish Times</em> that many of the original records contained in Roman Catholic parish registers are rotting away:</p>
<blockquote><p>Roman Catholic parish registers constitute by far the most important set of records for 19th-century Irish local and family history. And, in the furore over access, one vital point is constantly missed. The original records are still sitting in the sacristies and presbyteries around the country where they have been for the past two centuries. No organization on the island is concerned with preserving them: there is no archival programme to ensure their survival."</p>
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<p>Read the Grenham's full piece <a href="http://www.irishtimes.com/culture/heritage/irish-roots-1.1757676" target="_blank">here</a>.</p>
<p>What's your take on this? Can anything be done to save these important and irreplaceable records?</p>
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