Stop the Parades? - The Wild Geese2024-03-29T11:25:08Zhttps://thewildgeese.irish/forum/topics/stop-the-parades?commentId=6442157%3AComment%3A39749&feed=yes&xn_auth=noNow then mickey macadden , oh…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1727292015-10-12T13:11:39.673ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Now then mickey macadden , oh what a bigot you are ; with people like you in the higher echelon of Power ; its no wonder that peace is a dream in Ireland. I do not think that I woudl want you to represent me if I lived in the USA </p>
<p>I do not think that bringing up the Catholic Churches Priests outrageous press on abuse - has anything to do with the wise words they Father McManus has spoken , He is entitled to his opinion ; naive as it may sound. </p>
<p>I also do not believe that…</p>
<p>Now then mickey macadden , oh what a bigot you are ; with people like you in the higher echelon of Power ; its no wonder that peace is a dream in Ireland. I do not think that I woudl want you to represent me if I lived in the USA </p>
<p>I do not think that bringing up the Catholic Churches Priests outrageous press on abuse - has anything to do with the wise words they Father McManus has spoken , He is entitled to his opinion ; naive as it may sound. </p>
<p>I also do not believe that the "old meaulin crying into their beer"; [you article above] is appropriate language in a very serious debate on the parades in Northern Ireland . </p>
<p> And more importantly Gaelic Schools are thriving in Southern Ireland ; I know because both of my Grand - Children attended them, Whatever your opinion is on its native language in Ireland - it is on it's way back in all sorts of Government corridors Waiting lists for places in these schools are long, </p>
<p>. Please try to remember to read the History of Ireland before you go blathering on about its democratic present Hard fought for when you read the History of Ireland . </p>
<p>Being Irish should not be defined by being Protestant or Catholic ... Orange or Republican , Being Irish means that we should be able to live side by side ; neighbor helping neigh</p>
<p>I happen to know and lived across the road from Katie Taylor's family; and know what a very good ambassador for Ireland she is.</p>
<p>Born into a Catholic family and then switching to another section of the same Christian Faith [Evaqngelic Church Dublin ; does not make her any less Irish, and certainly I doubt that she woudl call herself English; although her father was born in England ; so she has Irish and English blood in her. Much like my own children who have an Irish mother and an English father. </p>
<p>In your position [although how you got a post like that is beyond me ] you should be more careful about your language when you are using words to denigrate the Irish people you language below </p>
<p> " The old Gaelic whinging bagpipe meaulin crying in their beer Ireland is a waste of time. Because while such drunks beat the goat skin, drink Guinness and sing in Gaelic about what once was, the new Ireland is harnessing the Islands resources and getting rich off of it."</p>
<p><span> This definition of denigrate is as follows ;; this is exactly what you have done whit your language </span></p>
<p><span>The verb </span><b>denigrate</b><span> comes from the Latin word denigrare, which </span><b>means</b><span>“to blacken.” To sully or defame someone's reputation, or to spread negative or hurtful information about a company or a situation, is to </span><b>denigrate</b><span> it.</span></p> If I live din American ; I am…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1725162015-10-12T11:20:37.226ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>If I live din American ; I am not sure I woudl like you to represent me...... If you cannot see that all sides in this thorny issue need to learn the lessons of the past; then you do not deserve to represent any Irish diaspora. </p>
<p>If I live din American ; I am not sure I woudl like you to represent me...... If you cannot see that all sides in this thorny issue need to learn the lessons of the past; then you do not deserve to represent any Irish diaspora. </p> Lets be clear about this , th…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1728172015-10-12T11:11:13.769ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Lets be clear about this , the Parades are only a symptom of what the underling cause of the troubles in Norther Ireland are. </p>
<p>Cosgrove above , has put his finger on the root cause was set by double standards of Justice ; meted out to the Catholic population of Norther Ireland. However I woudl go further and push his finger way , way back in history to when it was a criminal offence to practice their Catholic Faith. </p>
<p>Having said that--------- what has happened to the good…</p>
<p>Lets be clear about this , the Parades are only a symptom of what the underling cause of the troubles in Norther Ireland are. </p>
<p>Cosgrove above , has put his finger on the root cause was set by double standards of Justice ; meted out to the Catholic population of Norther Ireland. However I woudl go further and push his finger way , way back in history to when it was a criminal offence to practice their Catholic Faith. </p>
<p>Having said that--------- what has happened to the good Friday agreement ; all that hard work.... gone... I do hope not. </p>
<p>In my opinion ; [easy for me to say , as i do not live there] is to teach children to behave in a none violent ; none aggressive; none confrontational manner ; so that somewhere in the mists of time ; attitudes may change ; 2/3 generations maybe , but anything is worth a try , rather than watching the same old, same old aggressiveness to solve their differences </p> With behavior like that ; on…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1725152015-10-12T10:58:21.027ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>With behavior like that ; on both sides ; Peace and the stopping of Parades looks bleak for teh future .</p>
<p>With behavior like that ; on both sides ; Peace and the stopping of Parades looks bleak for teh future .</p> Its a an argument that neithe…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1725142015-10-12T10:56:24.445ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Its a an argument that neither side can win ; unless they are prepared to say 'all Parades must stop '. Are the Politicians really going to stand up and say that .</p>
<p>No... they have " not got the bottle" [no backbone ] as we would say in Wolf Tone Bray Co Wicklow , where I grew up..................</p>
<p>If children in Northern Ireland were not taught to behave in this manner ; then they may have a future in Northern Ireland. Even then it will take a couple of generations for this…</p>
<p>Its a an argument that neither side can win ; unless they are prepared to say 'all Parades must stop '. Are the Politicians really going to stand up and say that .</p>
<p>No... they have " not got the bottle" [no backbone ] as we would say in Wolf Tone Bray Co Wicklow , where I grew up..................</p>
<p>If children in Northern Ireland were not taught to behave in this manner ; then they may have a future in Northern Ireland. Even then it will take a couple of generations for this learning to be handed down to future generations </p> Kelly ; you have started a de…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-12:6442157:Comment:1728142015-10-12T10:47:36.808ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Kelly ; you have started a debate that has been a long time coming . However, it does need to be taken up by a wider forum , i.e. Politicians on both sides .</p>
<p>I have contributed to a few of the dialogues ; some have made some valid point; others have brought in the Roman Catholic abuse by its clergy. This is not appropriate in a debate about the Parades ..............</p>
<p>It is a debate that could certainly go on forever......... judging by all the comments ..... well done for…</p>
<p>Kelly ; you have started a debate that has been a long time coming . However, it does need to be taken up by a wider forum , i.e. Politicians on both sides .</p>
<p>I have contributed to a few of the dialogues ; some have made some valid point; others have brought in the Roman Catholic abuse by its clergy. This is not appropriate in a debate about the Parades ..............</p>
<p>It is a debate that could certainly go on forever......... judging by all the comments ..... well done for bringing this to teh forefront on The Wilde Geese </p> Now then mickey macadden , I…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-11:6442157:Comment:1726102015-10-11T17:39:19.303ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Now then mickey macadden , I do not think that bringing up the Catholic Churches Priests outrageous press on abuse - has anything to do with the wise words they Father McManus has spoken , </p>
<p>I also do not believe that the old meaulin crying into their beer'; [you article above] is appropriate language in a very serious debate on the parades in Northern Ireland . </p>
<p> And more importantly Gaelic Schools are thriving in Southern Ireland ; I know because both of my Grand -…</p>
<p>Now then mickey macadden , I do not think that bringing up the Catholic Churches Priests outrageous press on abuse - has anything to do with the wise words they Father McManus has spoken , </p>
<p>I also do not believe that the old meaulin crying into their beer'; [you article above] is appropriate language in a very serious debate on the parades in Northern Ireland . </p>
<p> And more importantly Gaelic Schools are thriving in Southern Ireland ; I know because both of my Grand - Children attended the, Waiting lists for places in these schools are long, </p>
<p>Being Irish should not be defined y being Protestant or Catholic ... Orange or Republican , Being Irish means that we should be able to live side by side ; neighbor helping neighbor ............. </p> Yes ; I would agree with you…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-11:6442157:Comment:1728042015-10-11T17:22:22.243ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>Yes ; I would agree with you Bill , it is past history , But the challenge is to attempt to leave it there . Both side are so immersed in their own past taht they are not stopping to think about the future, or indeed the present, </p>
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<p>Yes ; I would agree with you Bill , it is past history , But the challenge is to attempt to leave it there . Both side are so immersed in their own past taht they are not stopping to think about the future, or indeed the present, </p>
<p></p> I woudl whole heartily agree…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-10-11:6442157:Comment:1728012015-10-11T17:16:07.562ZThat's Just How It Washttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/MaryThorpe
<p>I woudl whole heartily agree with every word you have written , Farther Sean McManus was absolutely right about 'stop being stupid' - that is however, the language of the School Playground - trying to get bullies to behave, All of them without question are bullies. </p>
<p>What has happened to the Good Friday agreement ??? Has all of that good work been for nothing. </p>
<p>The Politicians --- all of them - should come out strongly in favor of ' no parades '-- end off . Orange and…</p>
<p>I woudl whole heartily agree with every word you have written , Farther Sean McManus was absolutely right about 'stop being stupid' - that is however, the language of the School Playground - trying to get bullies to behave, All of them without question are bullies. </p>
<p>What has happened to the Good Friday agreement ??? Has all of that good work been for nothing. </p>
<p>The Politicians --- all of them - should come out strongly in favor of ' no parades '-- end off . Orange and Republicans ... Has either the Orange or The Republicans Politicians got the backbone to do this ; woudl they dare to stand up to their individual constitutions; and say ; I don't care how long we have been marching ; it is going to stop !!! </p>
<p>To live in peace; all sides must respect this ; will this ever happen ?? It is a certainly worth a try </p> Niamh, have you any direct ex…tag:thewildgeese.irish,2015-07-22:6442157:Comment:1660092015-07-22T16:21:48.162ZGerry Reganhttps://thewildgeese.irish/profile/ger_regan
<p>Niamh, have you any direct experience of them? I've long been fascinated by the remnants of Unionism in the 26 counties, e.g., in Sligo and Donegal. I wonder if those lodges are still in place.</p>
<p>Niamh, have you any direct experience of them? I've long been fascinated by the remnants of Unionism in the 26 counties, e.g., in Sligo and Donegal. I wonder if those lodges are still in place.</p>